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		<title>By: matt++</title>
		<link>http://www.nothirdsolution.com/2005/06/23/ill-ask-you-one-more-time/comment-page-1/#comment-3</link>
		<dc:creator>matt++</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jul 2005 15:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"The problem is that we're ruled by lunatics."&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Ding!&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;That has been true for all of human history.  Things will not change by simply replacing the man on top or the majority in congress.  Being ruled by lunatics is why we had a Constitution that (used to) sharply limit the powers of a federal government.  The "Public Good" will always be twisted and bastardized by whomever happens to be on top at the time to benefit a few at the expense of others.  That is definately not what the founding fathers where thinking of when they put the general welfare clause in the constitution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The problem is that we&#8217;re ruled by lunatics.&#8221;</p>
<p>Ding!</p>
<p>That has been true for all of human history.  Things will not change by simply replacing the man on top or the majority in congress.  Being ruled by lunatics is why we had a Constitution that (used to) sharply limit the powers of a federal government.  The &#8220;Public Good&#8221; will always be twisted and bastardized by whomever happens to be on top at the time to benefit a few at the expense of others.  That is definately not what the founding fathers where thinking of when they put the general welfare clause in the constitution.</p>
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		<title>By: doinkicarus</title>
		<link>http://www.nothirdsolution.com/2005/06/23/ill-ask-you-one-more-time/comment-page-1/#comment-4</link>
		<dc:creator>doinkicarus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jun 2005 00:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are comparing apples to cinderblocks.  Someone's sexual pleasure of raping a young girl (etc) in no way, ever, can be considered an inherent right of man.  So to deny him this, is not to deny him his right.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;You are asking me: Is it ok to deny someone's pleasure in favor of someone else's inalienable right (to be free from violence or the threat thereof)?  And I would answer you: unequivocally, yes.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;And in your reversal of my question, is that I don't believe it is ever acceptable in a free, lawful society, to violate one man's rights in favor of another man's whims, desires, wishes, etc.  Not ever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are comparing apples to cinderblocks.  Someone&#8217;s sexual pleasure of raping a young girl (etc) in no way, ever, can be considered an inherent right of man.  So to deny him this, is not to deny him his right.</p>
<p>You are asking me: Is it ok to deny someone&#8217;s pleasure in favor of someone else&#8217;s inalienable right (to be free from violence or the threat thereof)?  And I would answer you: unequivocally, yes.</p>
<p>And in your reversal of my question, is that I don&#8217;t believe it is ever acceptable in a free, lawful society, to violate one man&#8217;s rights in favor of another man&#8217;s whims, desires, wishes, etc.  Not ever.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jun 2005 23:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>doin: I would ask you then, if you disagree regarding the public good, under what circumstances is it alright to violate the rights of one person in favor of the desires of another person? Is it alright to take one man's life so that a dozen more may not perish? If not a dozen, what about a hundred, or a hundred thousand?&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Fortunately, most tradeoffs aren't like this.  Most are like, "Is it worth denying a sick subset of men the sexual pleasure associated with raping  young girls ( boys, cows, etc.) in order to protect the well-being of the girl, boy, cow, pig, etc.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;The vast majority of public good questions are no brainers. (See 10 commandments.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>doin: I would ask you then, if you disagree regarding the public good, under what circumstances is it alright to violate the rights of one person in favor of the desires of another person? Is it alright to take one man&#8217;s life so that a dozen more may not perish? If not a dozen, what about a hundred, or a hundred thousand?</p>
<p>Fortunately, most tradeoffs aren&#8217;t like this.  Most are like, &#8220;Is it worth denying a sick subset of men the sexual pleasure associated with raping  young girls ( boys, cows, etc.) in order to protect the well-being of the girl, boy, cow, pig, etc.</p>
<p>The vast majority of public good questions are no brainers. (See 10 commandments.)</p>
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		<title>By: doinkicarus</title>
		<link>http://www.nothirdsolution.com/2005/06/23/ill-ask-you-one-more-time/comment-page-1/#comment-6</link>
		<dc:creator>doinkicarus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jun 2005 21:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would ask you then, if you disagree regarding the public good, under what circumstances is it alright to violate the rights of one person in favor of the desires of another person?  Is it alright to take one man's life so that a dozen more may not perish?  If not a dozen, what about a hundred, or a hundred thousand?&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;We have to examine the vulgar use of force at play here, against law-abiding citizens, I might add, and the complete lack of the right to self-determination for which our forefathers fought and died.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would ask you then, if you disagree regarding the public good, under what circumstances is it alright to violate the rights of one person in favor of the desires of another person?  Is it alright to take one man&#8217;s life so that a dozen more may not perish?  If not a dozen, what about a hundred, or a hundred thousand?</p>
<p>We have to examine the vulgar use of force at play here, against law-abiding citizens, I might add, and the complete lack of the right to self-determination for which our forefathers fought and died.</p>
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