Comments on: Rights & Paramilitary Raids http://www.nothirdsolution.com/2006/11/26/rights-paramilitary-raids/ Blogging about liberty, anarchy, economics and politics Wed, 07 Jan 2009 02:31:05 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: doinkicarus http://www.nothirdsolution.com/2006/11/26/rights-paramilitary-raids/comment-page-1/#comment-393 doinkicarus Mon, 27 Nov 2006 17:28:00 +0000 http://70.86.180.226/~nothirds/wp/?p=412#comment-393 The problem is that, especially the paramilitary SWAT teams, are intentionally putting themselves in positions where normal people are pretty much forced into responding to what appears to be criminal force. The absence of any objectively reasonable means for identification all but assures these outcomes will continue to occur.<BR/><BR/>With regards to the "just doing their jobs" argument, that defense didn't work in Nüremburg, and we should be loathe to tolerate it in our own backyard.<BR/><BR/>I'll have a more well-thought out response later. The problem is that, especially the paramilitary SWAT teams, are intentionally putting themselves in positions where normal people are pretty much forced into responding to what appears to be criminal force. The absence of any objectively reasonable means for identification all but assures these outcomes will continue to occur.

With regards to the “just doing their jobs” argument, that defense didn’t work in Nüremburg, and we should be loathe to tolerate it in our own backyard.

I’ll have a more well-thought out response later.

]]> By: KipEsquire http://www.nothirdsolution.com/2006/11/26/rights-paramilitary-raids/comment-page-1/#comment-394 KipEsquire Mon, 27 Nov 2006 15:52:00 +0000 http://70.86.180.226/~nothirds/wp/?p=412#comment-394 My concern is that people often confuse "the police" with "the government."<BR/><BR/>If you're the beat cop, or the undercover cop, or even the paramilitary SWAT member, then you didn't pass the drug laws, you didn't target the address, you didn't sign the warrant. You're just doing your job. And then someone starts shooting at you. So you shoot back. To which I say: damn right and good job!<BR/><BR/>We're getting a little too close to the modern-day equivalent of shouting <I>"Baby Killers!"</I> to Vietnam vets (i.e., people who are simply not the problem, but only a symbol of the true problem).<BR/><BR/>Get angry at the politicians; leave the police alone. My concern is that people often confuse “the police” with “the government.”

If you’re the beat cop, or the undercover cop, or even the paramilitary SWAT member, then you didn’t pass the drug laws, you didn’t target the address, you didn’t sign the warrant. You’re just doing your job. And then someone starts shooting at you. So you shoot back. To which I say: damn right and good job!

We’re getting a little too close to the modern-day equivalent of shouting “Baby Killers!” to Vietnam vets (i.e., people who are simply not the problem, but only a symbol of the true problem).

Get angry at the politicians; leave the police alone.

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