I found out about the Detroit Area Anarchist Group Blog via STR today. Maybe I’ll ask about and see if I can conspirecontribute?
If you’re an anarchist, especially one in or around Detroit, I urge you to check them out.
I found out about the Detroit Area Anarchist Group Blog via STR today. Maybe I’ll ask about and see if I can conspirecontribute?
If you’re an anarchist, especially one in or around Detroit, I urge you to check them out.
In response to A Belated Reply on Fractional Reserve Banking, Neverfox asked,
If everyone agrees to trust the third-party (bank) and “subscribe” to the token system (“I’ll accept tokens from you as a wage if you agree to sell me stuff with those tokens later”), where is the fraud and where is the need for a commodity money?
It begs the question to assume that money must be commodity money to be a legitimate medium (consequentialist considerations aside).
Does it really beg the question? Surely, we should be able to point to historical examples of monetary evolution culminating in irredeemable token substitutes. For starters, this argument assumes money as the intentional product of human design, which suffice to say, is contradicted by the facts of history.
The very notion of token substitutes presumes that they are a substitute for something else, in the same manner that a check, deposit-slip, or warehouse receipt are substitutes for, not replacements for, physical goods. Instead what we see in the history of the world is that, except where governments have been able to intervene, commodity money of some form or another has been pretty much standard.
As to the token-money hypothetical put forth above, what do they say? If ifs and buts were candy and nuts… Of course we can frame a hypothetical in such a manner as to preclude the possibility that fraud might occur: “I’m going to define a situation where fraud is inconceivable, and then ask you, ‘where is the fraud?'”, but I’d be tilting at straw men.
My father used to say, “You can ‘what if?’ yourself to death.” Dealing with “what ifs” is stupid, because the other guy can always pull a “27 Ninjas” on you. No matter what you say, they can always come up with some fantastic “what if” statement that apparently validates their position. But what the heck, I suppose I’ll play along for a moment.
Considering that in such a scenario, someone has contributed real, economic-value-added work, in exchange for tokens under an implicit assumption that he would be able to redeem those worthless tokens for something else of real, economic value, sometime in the future, even this cleverly constructed straw-man raises some interesting questions:
Under a commodity standard, money is the product of human action but not of human design.
Whether it takes the form of “debasement” or “coin-clipping” or “seignorage” or “inflation” is beside the point. If you condemn inflation when the government does it, why stand on your head to defend “private” inflation, if for any other reason than to argue that it will be less bad?
News flash: you know what’s even less bad than mild inflation?
No fucking inflation. Period.
It’s not too often that I share videos that I find lying around the Web, mostly because I don’t watch that many videos; it’s not a medium that I’m terribly fond of. Occasionally though, something compels me to watch one. Corktageous recently linked to a video in which Thorsmitersaw pwns 1001Bolsheviks, on YouTube, with regards to taxes, government, the labor theory of value, and capitalist exploitation. All in about 5 minutes. Worth a gander if you’ve got time to spare. If not, here’s my favorite part:
…You do not gain the right to use a person’s property just because it is capable of transforming other resources into a form suitable for human use. Hey, and how do you solve this conundrum? jackass: Let’s say I make a hammer. Or let’s say I make hammer-making machine. These are both means of production so you cannot prevent others from using them.
OH BUT WAIT! I OWN THE PRODUCTS OF MY LABOR!
Holy shit! I guess your stupid fucking dichotomy falls apart at the goddamn seams, doesn’t it? Proudhon pointed this out ages ago…